Lise was under the weather for recording this week, so enjoy this rerun instead! Did you miss what Andi and Lise think of the recent Marvel movie? Then check it out now!!
Andi and Lise FINALLY got to talk about Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse because Lise put off seeing it until recently and then, as Andi suspected, it blew her mind.
Into the Spider-Verse is an animated origin story about Miles Morales, a teen who is, of course, bitten by a radioactive spider and is faced with taking on the mantle of Spider-Man in the wake of his universe’s loss of the previous Spider-Man. He also has to deal with villain Kingpin’s manipulation of the multiverse, which results in several incarnations of Spider-Man (that include two women) entering Miles’ universe. It’s an origin story and a story about found family and mentorship set against ground-breaking animation that includes fabulous characterization, dialogue, humor, anxiety, and sadness. It’s pretty much everything you want in a film, and both Andi and Lise highly recommend it. Good for all ages (but if you have trouble with animation and flashing lights because of a medical condition, maybe check the trailer first).
Andi and Lise talk about “queer coding” this week, and how it appeared in the 2007 movie Hot Fuzz, a British parody action comedy with Simon Pegg and Nick Frost. HF is part of a related trilogy of movies called, loosely, the Three Flavours Cornetto trilogy, based on a joke from the first of the three, 2004’s Shaun of the Dead.
“Queer coding” means that a movie’s creators and characters don’t deny a queer subtext in a movie. In HF’s case, there was supposed to be a cisgender heterosexual female love interest, but instead, script writers Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright gave all her lines to the other male character, which resulted in a really interesting relationship between the two male main characters, that could be coded as queer and wasn’t denied by the characters or the writers.
Also, it’s just a hella fun movie.
For more info on HF and queer coding vs. queerbaiting, see Mary Kate McAlpine over at Medium.
For a peek at how the show’s writers and characters thought about HF as slash fiction, see Fanlore.
And Lise’s weekly woo-hoo is Amazon Prime’s Good Omens miniseries, in which sworn enemies an angel and a demon have to team up to save the world. It’s based in the 1990 novel of the same name by the Neil Gaiman and the late Terry Pratchett.
Andi’s woo-hoo is for the first season (not sure there’ll be more!) of the series Gentleman Jack, based on the 19th-century diaries of English noblewoman Anne Lister, who, if she had the terminology, would most likely have identified as lesbian.
Lise is in the weeds with edits for her upcoming novel (shameless plug alert!!!) Hunter’s Descent, the sequel to Five Moons Rising.
As a result, we don’t have a new episode this week. Instead, please enjoy this re-run of Episode 11: Wonder Woman!
Andi and Lise saw the movie Captain Marvel starring Brie Larson as Carol Danvers/Marvel and they LOVED it, but also, there are some things they noticed that they bring up in their chat.
Set in the 1990s, Marvel Studios’ “Captain Marvel” is an adventure from a previously unseen period in the history of the Marvel Cinematic Universe that follows the journey of Carol Danvers as she becomes one of the universe’s most powerful heroes. While a galactic war between two alien races (the Kree and the Skrulls) reaches Earth, Danvers develops a small cadre of allies at the center of the maelstrom. –from Marvel Cinematic Universe Wiki
Andi and Lise chat about the formative books, movies, and TV shows that kickstarted their geek sides and why these particular media were so important to their development as geeks and writers and why representation matters in media.
Interested in what helped shape their geekdoms? Here are a few of the things that came up:
Books: the works of Edgar Rice Burroughs; J.R.R. Tolkien’s Hobbit and associated books; Marion Zimmer Bradley’s Darkover series (disclaimer: Andi and Lise both stopped reading MZB after they became aware of the terrible); Terry Brooks’ Shannara series; Anne McCaffrey’s Harper Hall and Dragonriders series; Stephen R. Donaldson’s Thomas Covenant series; Ursula K. Leguin’s Earthsea trilogy
Movies: Star Trek; Star Wars; Goonies; Godzilla/monster movies
TV: Wonder Woman (Lynda Carter); Bionic Woman; Star Trek (original, Next Generation, Voyager); X-Files
Andi and Lise celebrate their 50th show with the 2015 movie Mad Max: Fury Road, an Oscar-winning post-apocalyptic tour de force with overt and covert feminist themes. Fury Road’s pulse-pounding pacing, gorgeous and brutal cinematography, and tight writing intertwine into layers of characterization and narrative. Don’t let the title fool you; Charlize Theron’s Imperator Furiosa is the focus, here, and her journey both literal and thematic provide the underlying structure of the movie while Tom Hardy’s Max is the viewer’s window into Furiosa’s life and motivations when he’s thrown into her escape plan from a tyrannical ruler. The alliance Furiosa and Max forge while they race to escape the clutches of Immortan Joe and his forces is masterful story-telling, and will stay with you long after the movie ends.
Andi and Lise are doing a top 10 Christmas movie roundup! And most likely, it’s not going to be what you expect. Because…well, Andi and Lise!
So grab your eggnog or beer or whatever and hang out for this nutty film talk about what we watch to get us into the mood this time of year.
Lise: Nightmare Before Christmas (1993); Home Alone (1990); The Muppet Christmas Carol (1992); Scrooged (1988); The Ref (1994)
Honorable mention: The Grinch Who Stole Christmas (1966)
Andi: The Long Kiss Goodnight (1996); Die Hard (1998); Scrooged (1988); Gremlins (1984); Enemy of the State (1998)
Honorable Mention: It’s a Wonderful Life (1946)
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Happy whatever you celebrate!
This week, Andi and Lise share some of their fave scary movies in honor of Halloween! Also, they drink beer and employ bad Halloween accents.
Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)
Tucker and Dale vs. Evil (2010)
Hocus Pocus (1993)
Alien 3 (1992)
Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975) BECAUSE OF COURSE OMG
The Sixth Sense (1999)
Sleepy Hollow (1999)
Night of the Living Dead (1968) 50TH ANNIVERSARY, Y’ALL!
And this week, Lise is raving about author Seanan McGuire’s work, particularly The Girl in the Green Silk Gown, while Andi got all kinds of feels watching the scifi robot fight circuit movie Real Steel. (srsly. Weepy.)